So....Money in The Bank

I recognize the effort that's been put in by a lot of people since our MITB post several weeks ago, and we're planning to reveal the four people this coming card....however, if I'm honest I kind of wish we could add two more into the mix just because there has been that effort and I want so badly to trust that a six person Ladder Match COULD get done despite that one time when everyone had seven weeks to do it, and didn't....


So, this isn't official or anything, it's more so a way to feel out what you the members think, the admins are away right now so come out to play and tell us what you think. 4 Man Money in The Bank, or 6 Man?

Depends if im in it or not lol. If not then 6 man all the way lol.

kingofbeards86 wrote:

Depends if im in it or not lol. If not then 6 man all the way lol.

Same lol

Im online all the time lol

4 man. I'd rather enjoy watching the match then be disappointed that I was promised a 6 man and only 4 showed up

This isn't directed at Mag, but if you're actually gonna take the time to reply to a thread where David (or any admin) want some serious thoughts regarding a topic? You should actually give them some serious thoughts and answers rather than just saying you want whatever match is easier for you to do/win.

But, my vote is for a four man match. For one, six man matches kind of suck when all of us have lives and jobs to work. Even with the most active of people, the past has proven that a six man match are always the hardest to get done, and sometimes they haven't. Imagine the first match back and it doesn't get done, or you have to do it without some people. And by some chance it does get done with all six individuals, I feel like a six man Money in the Bank would be a huge cluster fuck and not be enjoyable to watch or take part of. It would just be a matter of luck who wins at that point.

Two, and this point could be nullified if the admins do have six people who are totally deserving and capable of standing at the top of the mountain, but I'd want to see four people who are ready for that position atop the roster and will do good in that position rather than someone who you think will do good atop the roster. This isn't me shitting on anyone, but it's just how I see it. Tyler has done an amazing job making the World Championship mean something the past couple of months and I think it would suck to see all his work get shit on because admins pushed someone who might not be capable of carrying the load of being THE GUY in this league.

And lastly, this also kind of ties into the second point, but having more people =/= a better match. If the right four people are chosen, they could make that four person match better than the six people ever could. The saying that has always been said for judging a promo could also apply to this situation. The quality is better than the quantity.

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Austin wrote:

This isn't directed at Mag, but if you're actually gonna take the time to reply to a thread where David (or any admin) want some serious thoughts regarding a topic? You should actually give them some serious thoughts and answers rather than just saying you want whatever match is easier for you to do/win.

But, my vote is for a four man match. For one, six man matches kind of suck when all of us have lives and jobs to work. Even with the most active of people, the past has proven that a six man match are always the hardest to get done, and sometimes they haven't. Imagine the first match back and it doesn't get done, or you have to do it without some people. And by some chance it does get done with all six individuals, I feel like a six man Money in the Bank would be a huge cluster fuck and not be enjoyable to watch or take part of. It would just be a matter of luck who wins at that point.

Two, and this point could be nullified if the admins do have six people who are totally deserving and capable of standing at the top of the mountain, but I'd want to see four people who are ready for that position atop the roster and will do good in that position rather than someone who you think will do good atop the roster. This isn't me shitting on anyone, but it's just how I see it. Tyler has done an amazing job making the World Championship mean something the past couple of months and I think it would suck to see all his work get shit on because admins pushed someone who might not be capable of carrying the load of being THE GUY in this league.

And lastly, this also kind of ties into the second point, but having more people =/= a better match. If the right four people are chosen, they could make that four person match better than the six people ever could. The saying that has always been said for judging a promo could also apply to this situation. The quality is better than the quantity.

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While I know it wasn't directed at me, I'm only stating this as aneeded explanation. I did not mean it to come across as whatever is easier for me to do or win, I meant easier for others and for me to enjoy watching and or reading. I personally hate any multiman matches except tag matches. Just too chaotic for my tastes but if done with the right people can be entertaining. Sorry if my post came across as greedy.

Well could you do 2 triple threat money in the banks with 3 different people for each then have a 1 v 1 ladder match for the actual money in the bank between the 2 winners. the 2 triple threat money in the bank briefcases would just be contracts for the actual MITB 1 v 1 match.

MagnesiacXBL wrote:

While I know it wasn't directed at me, I'm only stating this as aneeded explanation. I did not mean it to come across as whatever is easier for me to do or win, I meant easier for others and for me to enjoy watching and or reading. I personally hate any multiman matches except tag matches. Just too chaotic for my tastes but if done with the right people can be entertaining. Sorry if my post came across as greedy.

Trust me, man. I don't think you looked at all greedy/obsessed with wanting to win with your post. Hell, I stated basically the same thing that you did. It would be more fun to watch a 4 man match that will for sure get done rather than a 6 man which more than likely won't get done. You're cool, dude. You gave a legit opinion on it that didn't come across as self-centered.

BOFA wrote:

Well could you do 2 triple threat money in the banks with 3 different people for each then have a 1 v 1 ladder match for the actual money in the bank between the 2 winners. the 2 triple threat money in the bank briefcases would just be contracts for the actual MITB 1 v 1 match.

That's not even Money in the Bank anymore. That's like saying we can do an Elimination Chamber match that ends in one fall. The point of Money in the Bank Ladder match is to have one multi-man ladder match to decide who gets a World Championship match whenever they want.

Multi-man ladder matches are aids. . .

Is the announcement being posted closer to next monday?

kingofbeards86 wrote:

Is the announcement being posted closer to next monday?

Nah within the next couple of days.

Alright so the league appears to be split on the matter. We've had thoughts/reasons from Austin as to why it should stay a 4 man and not risk the 6....so what I want is for someone to speak up as for why it should be 6. What benefits outweigh the negative as proposed by Austin? Why risk making it a Six Man?


I want someone on the side for it, to explain why. It's not asking a lot, the league needs more discussions like this, I'd prefer to have had more thoughts from everyone overall on the matter, but since that doesn't seem to be transpiring, all I ask is for one person, (or more if they feel lead to) to come forward and say why it SHOULD be a Six Man Money in The Bank.


Because you never know, it could be you that competes in this match, and if you won't put forth the effort or time in at least making a post, how can I trust you, or believe you'll put forth the effort it would take to get said Six Man done?

my issue with a 4 man, and im not saying it will happen. but in other leagues when this type of match is done, it usually gets filled with admins or their friends. i just dont want a game of favorites here.

kingofbeards86 wrote:

my issue with a 4 man, and im not saying it will happen. but in other leagues when this type of match is done, it usually gets filled with admins or their friends. i just dont want a game of favorites here.

Literally not a single admin is in the four we've chosen, I'll flat out say it, I was suggested. Have I earned it? I'm one of the most consistent people, and you know for damn sure I'd bust my ass to get it done...but I immediately said I wanted to embrace the whole make this match have someone "new" emerge aspect and declined. XWL is not other leagues, sometimes admins have to be put in places if we don't have others to fill spots, and of course admins earn stuff just like everyone else...but we are not automatically first picks for everything. If you're consistent, as we always say, you'll get rewarded with something.


Even look at this week, Edge cut a promo literally 2 hours or so before the new card, so what did we do? We rewarded his effort by giving him a match with purpose, with story, to further try to motivate him to keep it up.  


There is also not a "group" here that's comprised of admins and their friends, we reward effort, it may not always happen as fast as some would like, or to everyone at the given time, but it does happen, no matter who it's from.

In fairness these matches used to consist of the same people, same goes with the Chamber match. I'm not throwing out names and I'm not saying they weren't active enough to earn it but sometimes the choices were questionable. If it is the case where it's different people in it who haven't featured before then it will be a breath of fresh air to the place.

Just my thoughts but I know little these days.

Sorry I've not been on should be on Skype soon, but 4 man purely because less chance of it going to shit and more chance of getting it done



Also Damn, shrugs calling me out

TheFilthParade wrote:

Sorry I've not been on should be on Skype soon, but 4 man purely because less chance of it going to shit and more chance of getting it done



Also Damn, shrugs calling me out

So many accomplishments.... Makes mine look like childs play lol.

Also when will the ic title history be updated?

TheFilthParade wrote:

Sorry I've not been on should be on Skype soon, but 4 man purely because less chance of it going to shit and more chance of getting it done



Also Damn, shrugs calling me out

I'm just jelly.

P.S
Having been in both types, 4 man is so much less hassle to get done. Over that is an absolute ball ache.

Just noticed that autocorrect , dammit.

kingofbeards86 wrote:

TheFilthParade wrote:

Sorry I've not been on should be on Skype soon, but 4 man purely because less chance of it going to shit and more chance of getting it done



Also Damn, shrugs calling me out

So many accomplishments.... Makes mine look like childs play lol.

Also when will the ic title history be updated?

Become an admin, they quickly rack up.

i recall a league like that

After considering input from the league, and discussing the matter between ourselves we've decided to stick with The 4 Man Money in The Bank, the negatives just outweigh the positives unfortunately.


Six Man Matches take a lot to get done, and with differing schedules, as well as targeting in general, it just feels like it would be the worst option between the two. With that said we have gone back and discussed the superstars we've put in the MITB and we now believe that we're fully rewarding everyone that deserves it, and those that didn't make the cut will still have something after Emergence if they keep up the effort.



So stay tuned in the coming days for the reveal of the four members that will compete in the Money in The Bank Ladder Match at Emergence!