Switch (omg!)

Subject: Switch (omg!) Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:52 pm

First topic message reminder :

Switching the Miz for Bram. As bad as it seems I have a plan for Brock and others really want The Miz. Bram also gives me the opportunity to craft my own persona with a character as opposed to trying to play something I'm not like Miz or Seth.

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:08 pm

Zack wrote:

Danny Boy wrote:: I'm just saying that if Pats hates on random people for no reason (which I don't agree with) then you hate on Pats even while he's not doing anything wrong... then aren't you just as bad.

Simply, if you all stopped poking at Pats when he's not doing anything and he stopped being annoying when no one else is doing anything, then there'd be no issue.

In just my small time here I've already seen him do annoying things so I agree that he isn't perfect, but just because he's made mistakes isn't any reason to hate on him in a thread where he switched his superstar. Especially guys like Zack who also appear to be picked at sometimes shouldn't be saying anything to Pats because he should know what it's like from the other end.

You all should just chill out.

The thing is, Pats needs to mature. It's as simple as that. Sure, I wasn't the best around when I first came here, in fact I'll admit I was a horse's ass most the time, but now three or four years later, I've matured enough to admit my own mistakes, and that's what Pats has yet to ever do.

I agree. I've heard things about Pats that aren't the best and I've seen him make unneeded trouble, but I still don't stand behind causing unneeded trouble with him, either.

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:08 pm

Zack wrote:

Danny Boy wrote:: I'm just saying that if Pats hates on random people for no reason (which I don't agree with) then you hate on Pats even while he's not doing anything wrong... then aren't you just as bad.

Simply, if you all stopped poking at Pats when he's not doing anything and he stopped being annoying when no one else is doing anything, then there'd be no issue.

In just my small time here I've already seen him do annoying things so I agree that he isn't perfect, but just because he's made mistakes isn't any reason to hate on him in a thread where he switched his superstar. Especially guys like Zack who also appear to be picked at sometimes shouldn't be saying anything to Pats because he should know what it's like from the other end.

You all should just chill out.

The thing is, Pats needs to mature. It's as simple as that. Sure, I wasn't the best around when I first came here, in fact I'll admit I was a horse's ass most the time, but now three or four years later, I've matured enough to admit my own mistakes, and that's what Pats has yet to ever do.

Two wrongs don't make a right but it's the internet so it happens anyways. If people are nice Pats still talks shit at times so people have stopped being as nice as they were trying to be before. Zack hit the nail on the head basically, Pats doesn't take accountability for his actions.

People should chill yeah, but it's basically a never ending cycle. And it'll continue to be until Pats wises up and learns to treat people with respect so that he'll get it in return.

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:11 pm

As I've said, Pats brings everything on himself, he's pretty much burnt every bridge he ever had. Including with David who stuck up for it, and defended him here and other places on many occasions. David stuck his neck out for him in admin chats for title matches and everything, but he went and threw that back in Davids face with the whole IC title thing, then trolled David about that.

So yeah, Pats brings it all on himself, just because people don't see it here doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Plus, me saving Miz has been saved wasn't necessarily hate at Pats, it was that I thought the whole "Ruthless"thing was well, stupid. Why use the gimmick then say its annoying so you dont want to use it.

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:15 pm

TheFilthParade wrote:: Plus, me saving Miz has been saved wasn't necessarily hate at Pats, it was that I thought the whole "Ruthless"thing was well, stupid. Why use the gimmick then say its annoying so you dont want to use it.

Pretty sure that's the general feeling on why anyone might be glad Miz was dropped. He's an annoying prick (The Miz) even as a face he was. So to wanna drop all of that because it's "annoying" pretty much said he wasn't a good fit for Miz and he realized that. Bram is probably a good fit for Pats in all honesty, he's a very new character that can go in any way he wants him to. I typically go for characters that have a little something that I can add my own twist to over time. So Bram can be that for him. He wants to create a character, be an extension of himself like he's tried for the other characters he's been...and because Bram isn't established this will help him do that.

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:15 pm

TheFilthParade wrote:: Plus, me saving Miz has been saved wasn't necessarily hate at Pats, it was that I thought the whole "Ruthless"thing was well, stupid. Why use the gimmick then say its annoying so you dont want to use it.

Tbh my post was mostly directed at people like Suntan who have no reason to be saying stuff like that.

But yeah, I agree with you, picking up a guy like The Miz and completely no selling the gimmick that makes him The Miz was a really foolish thing to do, and I'm glad that someone else will get the opportunity to do it properly.

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:15 pm

TheFilthParade wrote:: Pats brings it all on himself

This is untrue. He didn't do anything in this particular thread. I understand responding negatively when Pats is at fault, but he really didn't do anything in this thread so I'm not so sure there's a need to keep going at him.

Anyways, this thread should probably be locked or something since it's served its purpose and nobody is really making any progress with an argument anymore. Some have one opinion while others have another opinion so it's whatever.

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Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Wed Jul 30, 2014 2:29 pm

I have nothing to do with this but like why care it's one of the best maybe the best Xbox league out here but it's not like we see each other or hang out everyday so why give a fuck about what anybody says about you. I see some of you consider this league as a family and I understand that but this is over the internet. I've been here for a short time so I probably don't understand completely but why trip over people who you don't see almost everyday or barely even talking too. You do what you do and they do what they do does it matter

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:43 pm

Tbh i talk about everybody dash and you know that lol. It just happened to be pats this time nothing more than that

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:55 pm

I miss Ash Sad

Subject: Re: Switch (omg!) Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:03 pm

Zander wrote:: I miss Ash

We all do.

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