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WWE '12 will be available in North America on Nov. 22, 2011, and in the U.K. on Nov. 25, 2011.

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Key Features

PREDATOR TECHNOLOGY™ – Engage in the WWE experience like never before through a dynamic gameplay system that looks, feels and plays better than ever before. The brand new Breaking Point submission system, new Attributes and control layout, as well as major changes to Momentum and Stamina systems make for the best WWE gameplay to date.

DYNAMIC PRESENTATION – Observe impressive visual changes to gameplay presentation, including new animations, camera positions, lighting arrangements and significantly improved rendering, all delivering an authentic and striking representation of WWE programming.

WWE UNIVERSE 2.0 – Embrace the virtual WWE experience through new and more impactful elements of unpredictability, as rivalries, alliances, matches and spontaneous action will dramatically evolve based on individual player decisions.

CREATE AND SHARE – Develop and customize Superstars, entrances, finishing moves, storylines, Highlight Reels and all-new, to-be-announced capabilities in the franchise’s best-in-class creation suite.

ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA – Explore in the franchise’s popular story-based mode through compelling new storylines and major gameplay improvements.

EXTENSIVE ROSTER – Compete with WWE Superstars, WWE Divas and WWE Legends from one of the largest rosters in franchise history, including John Cena, Randy Orton, The Miz and Alberto Del Rio.
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#GRE3 @WWEGAMES #WWE12 Random WWE 12 Facts and Observations: 12 Attributes Total 7 new this year Strike Power, Grapple Power, Submission, Strike Defense, Grapple Defense, Speed, Agility, Adrenaline, Recovery, Toughness, Charisma, Tag Team
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Tag Team is a stat? Interesting.
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#GRE3 @WWEGAMES #WWE12 Random WWE 12 Facts and Observations: 12 Attributes Total 7 new this year Strike Power, Grapple Power, Submission, Strike Defense, Grapple Defense, Speed, Agility, Adrenaline, Recovery, Toughness, Charisma, Tag Team

*sets Speed, Recovery and Toughness to 100*
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Lets talk controls. So one hallmark of a game is that of the controls, while the stick controls worked well enough, most peoples instinct normally is to hit the buttons. The control scheme feels very good. Let me break it down.

LStick – Move
Dpad Up – Wake Up Taunt
RStick – Change Grapple Position
A/X – Grapple
B – Pin/Run
Y – Sigs/Finishers/Dramatic Comeback
X – Strike (weak/strong)
LB – Action
RB- Limb Modifier
RT – Counter
LT – Run / check adrenaline

When striking like WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2011, you have the option to do 4 different directional weak strikes and two different strong strikes. As far as grappling goes you get 4 groggy grapples that are you trademark moves that lead up to your signatures and finishing moves. The groggy grapples can be performed from pickups, brawler combos, certain weak grapples, and clothesline to the corner. You get 4 weak strikes by hitting the a / x button + leftstick. Overall the controls felt really good and as a huge AKI games gamer, this system made me quite happy. Also if you want to use the right stick to grapple, you can do so all day. I was unable to take a look at how the right stick operated as the options in the E3 demo was pretty limited.

There is also a great addition this year called limb targeting. Limb targeting works by doing a catched grapple by press A / X then holding the RB / R1 button press the different face buttons, for the 360 for example X is one arm, B is the other arm, Y is the head and A button is the legs. However I would expect it to not be changed too much. Another huge addition and very welcome addition is the inclusion of a new submission system.

So basically how this works is you put on the submission by doing the ground grapple move or the finisher and a logo from the Breaking Point ppv will pop up and it is a tug of war battle between you and your opponent, what happens basically is as you damage your oponnent more and more it will become easier to make your oponnent tap out. So instead of using the right stick to shine to a tap out, you will just simply mash the buttons. It worked great in past games like Here Comes the Pain and it works great here! The Tiger Woods style kick out meter returns and is just as good as ever, this time you are in a pinfall situation the section that you need to get the meter into changes every time, as well it pops up now shortly before the second count, instead of as soon as the pinfall starts.



Animation, this has been a soar spot for the series for quite a long time. The main issue in past games was the warping of moves from pins warping to signatures warping like the five knuckle shuffle or the peoples elbow , to even simply ground grapples. Granted over the years it got better and better, but this year it is completely gone. It makes the game feel less like its ancestors and more deserving of its new name WWE 12. In the past certain moves would not flow or animate into each other properly, this has been remedied with a new animation blending technology in which it will take one animation and another animation and it will blend them so there will be no more awkwardness and robotic looking moves. Breaking up animations and moves has been something the fans has asked about for many years and this year pretty much every move, signature and finisher can now be broken up and it pushes the game closely to being a more authentic replica of the WWE experience. Speaking of animation the title intro has been updated to reflect WWE’s boxing style introductions in which the champion has the belt and jumps around , raises the belt as Justin Roberts introduces.

Attributes have been retooled this year, with now totaling to 12. Here is the list

Total 7 new this year
Strike Power
Grapple Power
Submission
Strike Defense
Grapple Defense
Speed
Agility
Adrenaline
Recovery
Toughness
Charisma
Tag Team

So now you guys can start speculating what each attribute means for the superstars that you are playing as. As well as the kip up ability has now been replaced with something called a dramatic comeback in which when you reach a certain damage level, lets say orange from previous Smackdown games, you will have a prompt pop up and while you are on the ground you hit the Y button which activates a flashing bar that is integrated into your momentum bar and then when you hit your dramatic comeback this is done by running and press Y button. For example John Cena has his two running shoulder blocks and his spin out power bomb and you instantly earn a signature for the Five Knuckle Shuffle and then a finisher for the Attitude Adjustment. While all of this happens prompts pop up and its a war between who can time it the best, it works very much like tag team hot tag.

Which leads me to the match progression, the most telling thing of all about WWE 12 is how the match progresses from a WWE point of view. So basically you start the match both of you cannot tap each other out, neither one of you can make a comeback, both of you can walk without holding a body part , you can run freely around the ring and you cannot do any signatures / finishers. Now when you progress further into the match with moves like limb damage moves, groggy grapples you will see the Breaking Point meter moving down to one side or the other, one side of the coin will be able to mount a comeback , the superstars will hold body parts, it will make it harder and harder to run around as your adrenaline will be drained, and you will get to the point where you can do signatures and finishers to end the match. The point I am trying to make that WWE 12 finally has captured what all of the trademarks and hallmarks of WWE style matches and it feels fun at the same time.





Here we are going to talk about the superstars that will be playable at E3.

John Cena
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Attire : Red persevere attire, darker jean shorts, red arm band, red wristbands, black hightops
Entrance : Same as you see on tv
Moveset : New Five Knuckle Shuffle of the top rope, new diving leg drop,
Dramatic comeback – Two shoulder blocks, spin out powerbomb

Alberto Del Rio
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Attire : Gold attire with scarf, has the birds on side of trunks
Entrance: Comes out in a Bentley looking car on the ramp, Ricardo Rodriquez introduces him.
Moveset : Cross Arm Bar looks great as well does the running enziguri

Randy Orton (Note Randy Orton is the best overall in the demo – Movesets, entrance, comeback)
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Attire : Black tights with olive viper green outline
Entrance: Orton with the belt holds up just like on TV, regular has Orton does evolution taunt.
Moveset : Olympic Slam, signature clothesline, new jumping knee drop
Dramatic comeback – Two running clotheslines , snap power slam

The Miz
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Attire : Blue tights with Miz logo on the back
Entrance: New Miz entrance with Miz being cocky as ever.
Moveset : Nothing new.

Note: Nothing on the stars are final in the E3 build.

The movesets have had a huge upgrade not only are two running strikes coming but also the movesets are accurate, the moves themselves feel personal and there is nothing that there shouldn’t be. A little over 60 new moves has been added to this years game, as well as there is a some cool reanimated moves and not a single move has been removed from the 2011 game. In past years moves have been removed because they were not the quality of newly animated moves and just did not fit with the tech of the game. So I can assure you, removal of moves was not done to spite the fans, that request a billion moves. The AI has also been improved this year with more challenging difficulties, and varied attacks and more agressive AI.

The audio in the game while just as good as past years, has not changed that much aside from the inclusion of lets go Cena Cena sucks chants and grunts of the in game superstars.

The camera angles has had a very noticeable upgrade, as there is never a time when the action is not caught just as it is on WWE TV. From John Cena hitting the top rope five knuckle shuffle to when the Mexican Aristocat hits the dashing enziguri. Also for added drama, a special effect with a brown /tan tinge wher time is slowed down. Of all the effects we’ve gone through this probably the best implication so far of Yukes games.

There is a new rendering technology in place in this years game, as well as the lighting has been revamped. The screenshots really do not do this game justice. The models between 2011 and WWE 12 is very noticeable, the detail on the face , as well as any text or images on the supestars attires are more detailed then ever. The details on every superstar and arena look as authentic as ever and you will notice things like when you walk up the ramp the superstars will be illuminated and when you are in the ring you will see the ropes bouncing, as well as a shadow underneath the superstars.


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Orton with the best overall?
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I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?
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I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?

Dolph Ziggler's that awesome, he also has the comeback limes
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 Thread   WWE '12 Thread - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 8:11 am

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I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?

You'd think so. Either way It won't be usefull for XWL matches, It's probably going to be banned. mischief
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Bronzeh. wrote:
I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?

You'd think so. Either way It won't be usefull for XWL matches, It's probably going to be banned. mischief

Yeah, although the guy does have to time a button press right, everyone would be face to just win instantly. Will either be banned or only allowed after 3 finishers.
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Bronzeh. wrote:
Gazza wrote:
Bronzeh. wrote:
I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?

You'd think so. Either way It won't be usefull for XWL matches, It's probably going to be banned. mischief

Yeah, although the guy does have to time a button press right, everyone would be face to just win instantly. Will either be banned or only allowed after 3 finishers.

To me, It's just like fired up,except you need to time it.
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PostSubject: Re: WWE '12 Thread   WWE '12 Thread - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun Jun 05, 2011 8:23 am

Gazza wrote:
Bronzeh. wrote:
Gazza wrote:
Bronzeh. wrote:
I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?

You'd think so. Either way It won't be usefull for XWL matches, It's probably going to be banned. mischief

Yeah, although the guy does have to time a button press right, everyone would be face to just win instantly. Will either be banned or only allowed after 3 finishers.

To me, It's just like fired up,except you need to time it.

Doesn't it only let you hit the signatures though, and then you need to hit the finisher yourself?
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Gazza wrote:
Bronzeh. wrote:
I'm guessing only faces have the comebacks, right?

You'd think so. Either way It won't be usefull for XWL matches, It's probably going to be banned. mischief

Yeah, it's banned for everyone except Gaz mischief
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IMO it would only work for faces but, there are a few seldom heels that could pull it off. That is, if the animation doesn't look too "face" or whatever. Even still, there's gonna be a lot of talking and tweaking once we get more info.
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yes, almost every match type has the weapon wheel now!

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would there be multiple choice of weapons to use under the ring?

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yes, almost every match type has the weapon wheel now!

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I want to do this hands-on Preview a little different than what is considered to be the norm. Instead I will talk about key things that I think people want to hear about and give my thoughts on them. So let’s get to it.

Gameplay:

I want to start off with Gameplay as it is No Doubt THQ’s main focus this year.

-Downtime/ Selling-

The days of getting hit by a clothesline at the beginning of a match and staying down for way to long like you were hit by a much more devastating move are gone. When a move is executed on you towards the beginning of a match the superstar will actually do a more realistic selling animation as he is rising to his feet instead of staying on the ground selling for a good five seconds. As the match progress you will stay down longer selling the move before rising up to your feet. Really makes it feels like a really match is going on and doesn’t take you out the experience like old games when you would sell moves at the beginning of the match for long periods of time.

-Animation Blending/ Flow/ Warping (Move Teleporting)-

This is one of the spots where the new tech shows through. Animations just flow like never before with the inclusion of Predator Technology. Remember in the past when your opponent would be rising off the mat and you would go to grapple them and it would warp them back down into a ground move…. Well, now instead of things like that happing you are able to grapple someone as they are standing up and you will grab there head and continue to bring them to there feet. Move Warping / Move teleporting has seen a lot of improvement, but is not perfect. THQ has really cleaned this up a a lot and will do more i’m sure as time goes on. One of the most noticeable areas where this has been improved is with moves where Superstars would teleport from wherever they were in the ring to the center of the ring. Take Joh Cena executing the Five Knuckle Shuffle. In past games you would have your opponent down on the mat near a corner and as soon as you initiate the Five Knuckle Shuffle you both superstars would warp to the center of the ring. Well, WWE’12 no matter where you are in the ring when you activate the Five Knuckle Shuffle your opponent will stay there and Cena will do the you can’t see me taunt and then bounce off the ropes. Looks really good – except that it is Cena (Sorry couldn’t help myself).

-Attributes-

Attributes are being bumped up from Seven to Twelve this year. Below is a list of the Attributes, but there were no descriptions as to what exactly they will do.

Tag Team
Charisma
Toughness
Recovery
Adrenaline
Agility
Speed
Grapple Defense
Strike Defense
Submission
Grapple Power
Strike Power

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-Adrenalin Meter/ Running-

Think of the stamina system in the past, but not crap. You have an adrenaline meter that pops up and starts to drain as you run. When the Adrenalin meter has been depleted you have to execute more offense on your opponent to build some of it back up to run again. Oh, and that horrible falling animation when stamina ran out in past games has been removed. My only complaint (and I have brought this to THQ’s attention) is that when the match starts you already have adrenaline in your meter, so you are able to run immediately I am hopeful that this will be changed before the game is shipped. Think WWE All Stars running.

-Interrupting moves mid animation/ Breakout System-

All moves in the game can be interrupted, but only at certain points in the animation. So if your performing a move it can be broken up at anytime except for the last quarter part of the animation, so you don’t run into unsightly looking animations. I was shown a demo of how this will work but, was not able to recreating it since the E3 demo does not have multi-man matches. Think WWE ALL STAR minus the unrealistic 360 flop when a move is broken up.

The New Tech being used in this years game lets them use a breakout system where moves can be combined. We were showed a demo of Cena doing the Five Knuckle Shuffle while another superstar

did a springboard in the middle of the ring on the same superstar. Not sure if you can hit the moves at the same exact time like Cena dropping the fist right when the springboard move is hitting. If you can that would be so AWEOSME!. Imagine a Jeff Hardy Caw dropping a double leg drop to the groin while Matt ?Hardy CAW hits a leg drop from the top rope. Sure stuff like this has been in the game as a long drawn out pre-animated move but, being able to set things up like this on your own with a friend would be great.

-Old Signature/ Finisher Meter makes a return-

The Momentum Meter has been thrown out for a more retro style Sig/ Finisher meter that will make so many happy. The way it works is you build up your Meter by performing Offensive moves like Strikes, Grapples, and taunts. You can also build up your meter by reversing your opponent. Once you get your meter maxed out it then starts flashing and you can execute a sig. Now, you only have a short amount of time to perform your sig, If you are able to hit your sig in time this gives you a chance for a flaming Finisher where if executed does more damage than a regular finisher since you hit it right after a sig. Now if you are not able to hit your flaming finisher the game will auto store your finisher (stored finishers are not as powerful as the flaming finishers). Something I brought up to THQ is there should be a button press to store finishers and not have it auto store, that is not fair to your opponent. They go on this great offense to stop you from doing your Flaming finsher and the game just stores it for you even if it isn’t as powerful ?. I look for that to be changed before release.

Also, while I am talking about finishers, I want to mention something that has annoyed so many and has been addressed. If your Superstar has to execute his finisher from behind like The Miz. Well, You can now execute it from the front and the Superstar will spin there opponent around automatically and perform there finisher.

-Breaking Point Submission System-

I have been wanting a more tug-a-war type submission system for quite some time now and I am happy to say it is here. The new Submission system is called the Breaking Point Submission system and works very well. Once you slap on say Del Rios cross arm bar a greyish text graphic pops on the screen that says Breakout and the object is to fill that graphic red or stop your opponent from fill it. This is done by mashing the face buttons and when I asked I was told a failsafe is in place to punish people who use turbo controllers. Also for the player that is in the submission, they have the option while button mashing the face button to use the left stick to navigate to the ropes and get a rope break. THQ informed us that there will not be an animation of the superstar actually reaching out an grabbing on to the ropes though (because of technical reasons) and they are working to get this in future games. Also, in the E3 build the Graphic is way to big and covers a lot of the superstars/ action. We were told that this will be addressed before the game is released.

-Dramatic Comeback Ability-

This is a better version of the momentum shift you have seen in other wrestling games like Day of Reckoning (Or in other words Sam West’s Adopted Son). First off in the E3 build only Cena and Orton have this ability and when you see it play out in front of you, it is true to there onscreen personas. So, they way it works is…. Essentially after you have the crap kicked out of you for awhile you have the chance to trigger this ability by running at your opponent and pressing the Y button. If you are successful this puts you in a mini game where you have to press the Y button before each move before your opponent does to initiate the next move. Now it was brought up to THQ to have it not always be the Y button (as it is in the E3 build) and have it be a random button each time, so people don’t get the pattern down. Hope this in put in before release. This is a great addition as this does happen on WWE Programming and really adds to the i’m down but I am not out just yet. Get ready for the five moves of DOOM everyone.
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-Control Setup for this Years Game-

Left Stick – Control Superstar

Right Stick up – Pick up opponent

Right stick down – pick up opponent in rear grapple position

Right Stick Left or right – Rotate or flip over opponent depending if they are on the mat or standing up/ in the corner

D-Pad – Taunt (Up on D-Pad is a Wake-up Taunt if you have a Sig/ Finisher)

Left Trigger – Run

Left Button – Action Button (Get in/out of ring, Climb Turnbuckle, Pick up Weapons, and so on)

Right Trigger – Reversals

Right Button – Limb targeting modifier. While in grapple, LB + X,Y,B,A

Y=Run, Also can get you to the turnbuckle and in the ring

B- Irish whip, pin

X-Striking

A- Grapple, Hold for submissions

-Limb targeting-

Now that you have read what the controls are for this years game, Lets talk about limb targeting. First you have to initiate a grapple, then hold RB + Y,X,B,A will execute a move to the body part assigned to that button. Y = head, X = Left Arm, B = Right Arm, A = Legs. We were told that there is no ay to target the body since all move tend to hurt the in the some form, makes sense. Most Superstars in the E3 build had the same Limb targeting moves and when I mentioned that to THQ they informed me that it would be tied to a superstars weight class. Since most superstars in the E3 are around the same Weight class they had the same moves.

Targeting limbs really has different negative effects on your opponent depending on which body part you target.

Head- Causes opponent to be groggy more quickly and longer

Arms = Opponent dealing out less damage

Legs = Will effect running/ Adrenaline a person has

The main time I seen this being useful for me was when I was wrestling with a wrestler that had a Submission Finisher, like Del Rio’s Cross Arm bar or Cena’s STFU.
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-Grappling-

With default controls grappling is now tied to the A button. Pressing A puts you in the chain grapple system that you have seen in past games. Once you have grapple with A you can hit the right stick in a direct to change to a different grapple position just like previous years. Or you can from the start hit the direct of the grapple position you want to be in with A and grab your opponent right in that grapple position. Kind of like last years grappling except A is now doing what the right stick did last year. You can go into a breaking point submission by holding A once in a grapple position. I like that they have changed from the right stick to the A button grapples as it feels more natural for me. If you were a fan of the right and would rather continue using that control setup, it will still be available as an option for you to turn on.

-Reversals-

Reversals have been totally retooled this year, which means no more spamming R Trigger and getting a reversal. Reversing finishers feels so satisfying and if manage to revers one you get one in return and I must say it is AWESOME to reverse someone with Orton and get a finisher and execute the RKO. THQ pointed out the the Rock, Paper, Scissors system that they still have in place. Strikes beat grapples, and the big addition is standard grapples/ strikes beat running grapples/ strikes. This is another way to stop the running spammers.

-Pinning Mechanic-

The pining mechanic for this years game is pretty much the same as last years game except you can no longer button mash to kick out. Instead you can only use the option of holding A to fill the meter to the designated area and stopping it inside. You could use this in last years game except this year it is a little different. The designated area to stop the meter is in a different spot every time a pinfall happen. The meter could be in the middle, at beginning, quarter of the way, three quarters of the way, exc. I was told that sometimes he meter might not even come up until the two count. I really felt this new system adds a nice dramatic/ panic feels to the match and also takes away the option for someone to you a turbo controller.

-Moves-

Just playing with these for Superstars I noticed quite a few new moves. I will list some.

Randy Orton- New punt from the corner is very nice and well animated with Orton pulling on the ropes as his opponent rises up to an on all fours position before he strikes, Orton also has his new taunt where he flails his arms around spitting all over the place (-the spitting), Snap power slam when someone is running at you, Clothesline where snaps around like the Viper does, New Angle Slam, and more.

Cena has a new running shoulder Block as seen in his comeback ability sequence, new Attitude Adjustment, New Diving Leg drop from top ropes, New Five Knuckle Shuffle and, more.

Alberto Del Rio had new taunts of course with his arms in the air and a cocky look on his face, he has his cross arm breaker where if done standing he flips and wraps his legs around there arm and takes them down to the ground, a new arm breaker with his knees, and more.

Didn’t notice to really anything new with The Miz
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-Wake Up Taunts-

Now, Normally I wouldn’t mention taunts in a hands-on preview, but the addition of Wake Up Taunts is well… As The Miz would say “AWESOME” To do a perform a Wake Up Taunt you press up on the D-pad when your opponent is down on the matt and you have a signature or a finisher. Also, you can use this to setup a top-rope turnbuckle move for a highflyer like Kofi Kingston’s cross body. We did discuss with THQ that people might spam this and use it to pick people up and not execute there sig/ finisher. They are looking into it and I hope it is addressed before the game ships.

-AI (Artificial Intelligence)-

The AI this year is more aware, Smarter, and very aggressive. If you try to spam the same moves over and over again the AI will pickup on it and adapt accordingly. We were told by THQ that AI will no longer pick up a weapon and then just throw it down before attempting to use it. Also ith the retooling of the AI this years normal will feel like last years Legend difficulty. So I can only imagine what this years Legend will be like. Also, THQ said with the new AI retool they are able to make the AI harder without just making them reverse almost everything.
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-Presentation-

TV Broadcast Camera Angles are really well done in this game and add so much to the overall presentation. All camera angles are from an angle you have seen on WWE prgramming. No more random camera angle where it looks like the camera man would have to be in the ring during the match to shoot that angle. You will see camera angle that look like thye came from the crane cam, a real camera man outside the ring, and a new angle for when you are going up the ramp to the stage, so you no longer have that jerking angle that swings over and looks over the ring facing the titantron. Instead you get this nice diagonal angle that is zoomed out and slowly zoom in tighter the farther you head u the ramp. Camera Angles may sound like a little thing but they add so much to the matches and entrances. Speaking of Entrances Del Rios is pretty sweet. His entrance starts out with Justin Roberts introducing his personal ring announcer Ricardo Rodrigues Once that is done del Rios music hits and you see his limo come from the right side on top of the RAW stage (think JBL’s Limo). Del rio then after honking the horn a few times gets out of the car posing all cocky till he goes down the ramp a lit bit, then his pyro goes off and Ricardo is announcing him the whole time. Physics have been added to the entrance gear and this is noticable with the scarf around Del Rios next. Look really nice. Can’t ait to see takers coat with the Physics. When you wrestle an match with a title on the line the wrestler will come down to the ring like normal except the the announcer will wait to announce them when they are in the ring just like on WWE Programming. This is very cool to watch play out as the wrestler stand in there corner and the announcer will announce them individually start with the challenger. All the little toucher are hear from , the ref taking the belt from the champ and showing it to the challenger before then holding it up for the crowd. Little touches like this go a long way. Also they have added the physics system to the ring and the ropes. So when a move is performed the mat and the ropes have a nice bounce to them on impact (No not that iMPACT). Also if you perform a move to close the ropes (say a suplex) the wrestlers legs can get caught on the ropes and trickle down each one until landing on the mat.

-Graphics/ UI (User Interface)-

The new depth of field effect does so much for the look of this game. Blurring out the background that is farther away and really making the Superstars and other things up close pop. THQ mentioned to us that they have seen the comments that the blur in the screenshots people are talking about like around the superstars has been toned down and I can say after what I have seen it looks great. We were shown how much the over graphics have been improved and how much sharper everything is. Much clearer and sharper logos on attires, clearer looking faces on the Superstar Models, Realistic lighting and shadowing. With the shadowing under the superstars, they really look like they are walking on the ring matt and not hovering over it. The for the overall E3 build is great. The main menu looks like the cover of the game with Randy Orton and animated smoke passing by with some low horror movie type music in the background (gone are the days of wrestling themes playing during the menus). THQ said they want to make a statement with the UI being like for each game and IA say it works. Let talk about the UI while in a match. There really isn’t much to it. You have the meter you need to fill for sig/finishers, the occasional F next to it when you have a finisher, and and adrenaline meter that appears in its place when you run. Since we couldn’t play multi-man matches with more then two players, I couldn’t see how cluttered the screen would be with more then two meters. Overall I like the meter this year instead of the one from last year that was the half circle around the Superstars feet. A nice little touch that I think everyone at THQ’s offices notice while I was out there is the fact that you now see the in ring action on the titantron. Little thing, but very cool.
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-Audio-

I have saved audio for last as I feel this is a big area where WWE’12 needs to really be improved. Commentary is pretty much the same as previous years with some newly added lines, but still with quite bit of old lines as well. I did hear some crowd chants, but the one that stuck out the most was LET”S GO CENA/ CENA SUCKS. Over all crowd noise during entrances and matches needs to be greatly improved and still really doesn’t stand out. It was nice to hear some real grunts and groans that sounded like they were recorded by the superstars themselves. I still think the grunts and graons need to be more intense and louder. I mean someone is trying to make you tap. You should sound like someone is really wrenching on your leg or arm about to break it and you are screaming in hope that the pain will stop. Same goes for in ring sound effects. I want a more realistic sound effect like the superstars are landing on a mat that has wood under it. Something I really like was this reverb effect they have on the Entrance music that makes it really sound like it is being played in an arena.

-Closing Comments/ Thoughts-

Overall the gameplay is feeling very solid, but after all this was the E3 build with just four superstars and a one on one match. I really can’t wait to see how a lot of these gameplay improvements pan out in a multi-man match and how online will come into play when using the pin system. I know a lot of people were bummed about the moves and movesets last year (myself included), but I will say for the four guys in the E3 build there movesets are looking spot on and AWESOME! Especially Orton’s moveset. All in all WWE’12 looks like it is shaping up to be the game (Gameplay wise) we have been wanting for years. The overall presentation of WWE’12 and Gameplay have super pumped to see what else THQ has in store for us with WWE’12. In the words of The Rock… FINALLY THE COMPETIVE GAMEPLAY HAS COMBACK TO THE NUMBER ONE WRESTLING/ FIGHTING SIMULATION GAME.
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That is some awesome info. I can't wait and I'm very positive about the game thus far.
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Keep an eye on the screen in the background, there you will see Del Rio's Cross Armbreaker and Arm Codebreaker.



A bit more gameplay, new AA and a clip of Alberto's entrance (Including Mr, Rodriguez himself)
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Gamespot interview with Cory Ledesma with some gameplay footage. Note, in this video, Bryan Williams is Del Rio and he takes it easy on the AI to show a lot of the gameplay changes. Some insane gameplay here guys.

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