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PostSubject: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeTue Jul 29, 2014 6:52 pm

Switching the Miz for Bram. As bad as it seems I have a plan for Brock and others really want The Miz. Bram also gives me the opportunity to craft my own persona with a character as opposed to trying to play something I'm not like Miz or Seth.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeTue Jul 29, 2014 6:57 pm

Approved.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeTue Jul 29, 2014 9:38 pm

Poor Bram.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 12:46 am

Nitro wrote:
Poor Bram.

Why?
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 3:19 am

Miz has been saved us flag
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 3:23 am

Nitro wrote:
Poor Bram.

TheFilthParade wrote:
Miz has been saved

Is there really any need for that?
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 4:17 am

Yes, there is a need for it. Without hate one can not make themselves better. Without hate one will feel content. By me saying "Poor Bram." that is motivation for Pats to do good with a character for once(besides Brock which I actually like.) So yes there is need for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 4:37 am

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Yes, there is a need for it. Without hate one can not make themselves better. Without hate one will feel content. By me saying "Poor Bram." that is motivation for Pats to do good with a character for once(besides Brock which I actually like.) So yes there is need for it.

Sugarcoat it any way you want but to me it just seems like you're being an ass for no reason.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 4:58 am

Alveuss wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Yes, there is a need for it. Without hate one can not make themselves better. Without hate one will feel content. By me saying "Poor Bram." that is motivation for Pats to do good with a character for once(besides Brock which I actually like.) So yes there is need for it.

Sugarcoat it any way you want but to me it just seems like you're being an ass for no reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 5:39 am

Now drop Brock, pls.

And drop Bram too.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 5:48 am

Alveuss wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Poor Bram.

TheFilthParade wrote:
Miz has been saved

Is there really any need for that?

There is yeah, you don't even know why.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 6:38 am

TheFilthParade wrote:
Alveuss wrote:
Nitro wrote:
Poor Bram.

TheFilthParade wrote:
Miz has been saved

Is there really any need for that?

There is yeah, you don't even know why.

Quoted for the truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 6:41 am

Explain it to me then
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 7:53 am

If we where to explain why we would be here for years upon years.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 12:13 pm

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(besides Brock which I actually like.).

Some people like Brock cheers

And I've got to side with Alveuss because I don't really see a meaningful point to bashing on Pats doing minute things such as making a switch. It's one thing to criticize him while he's in the wrong, but had anybody else made a thread like this none of you would have commented anything similar and Pats is only trying to do his best... whether you feel he'll fail at it or not, it's foolish to sit here and derail anything he could have possibly done before it's even been started. Two of you are admins too so you of all should know not to bash members openly on the forum.

Bottom line: Back off Pats, smh.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 12:48 pm

well its pats so its his fault lol
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:06 pm

It really takes the biscuit though when people who have no fucking clue what they're on about start on him. What exactly is his 'fault'?

So he didn't post the results to his title match, big deal, that was like 4 months ago now, he dropped Seth Rollins like everyone wanted him to, can we not continue to throw crap at him whenever he tries to do something new, something he might actually enjoy.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:11 pm

Nobody said it had anything to do with Seth, you're the only person to bring that up. Besides pats brings eveyetone on himself, you clearly don't know how he's been and stuff he's said out of the site, so he just plays the innocent victim and everyone buys into that.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:19 pm

Plz. I know exactly how he was away from the site, and I've seen the stuff he said, and I couldn't agree with you more on how immature and pathetic he sounded at the time, but even if he doesn't like most of the staff, and makes it pretty clear at times, he still doesn't deserve all of the hate he's getting on the site. It's not just his promos or his superstars either, I saw someone making fun of him for switching constantly, which honestly was laughable considering this site is home to me, Zack and Jerry.

It's like everyone just jumps on the 'I HATE PATS' bandwaggon because they see people who've been here for years dong it. They think they have the right to step in and shit all over him when they don't know the first thing about him or the situation. It's annoying as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:28 pm

At the end of the day Pats isn't innocent in all of this, sure some of the hate can be borderline unnecessary at times. But honestly, if he wants to be treated well, he needs to learn the whole saying "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If you hate on people, they'll hate back...simple. Instead of getting hung up on what people say, or trying to be this and that, he should just actually take the advice people have given him over the years, instead of constantly ignoring it. Pats has potential to be a good member, and perhaps that's also why the hate comes in, because it's there, he just squanders it with needless things. Such as starting crap in Zack's Birthday thread. Plain and simple, I don't condone all the shit said, but I've had shit said about me as have others, you just brush it off and go about your day.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:34 pm

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Plz. I know exactly how he was away from the site, and I've seen the stuff he said, and I couldn't agree with you more on how immature and pathetic he sounded at the time, but even if he doesn't like most of the staff, and makes it pretty clear at times, he still doesn't deserve all of the hate he's getting on the site. It's not just his promos or his superstars either, I saw someone making fun of him for switching constantly, which honestly was laughable considering this site is home to me, Zack and Jerry.

It's like everyone just jumps on the 'I HATE PATS' bandwaggon because they see people who've been here for years dong it. They think they have the right to step in and shit all over him when they don't know the first thing about him or the situation. It's annoying as hell.

I don't think anyone jumps on that "bandwagon" for sake of it, These people will no doubt have or had interaction with Pats to feel that way.

Plus, pretty much everything David said. Like after the whole IC title thing, me and Bang both actually offered advice about it to him, told him how he needs to change the way he acts, just for him to say "Gaz and Bang are dicks" to David.

It's stuff like that, the way he acts in general why he gets the hate he gets. Especially with his attitude, that he and others claim "is a joke" when he becomes incredibly cocky, which clearly isn't a joke.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:43 pm

TheFilthParade wrote:
Dash wrote:
Plz. I know exactly how he was away from the site, and I've seen the stuff he said, and I couldn't agree with you more on how immature and pathetic he sounded at the time, but even if he doesn't like most of the staff, and makes it pretty clear at times, he still doesn't deserve all of the hate he's getting on the site. It's not just his promos or his superstars either, I saw someone making fun of him for switching constantly, which honestly was laughable considering this site is home to me, Zack and Jerry.

It's like everyone just jumps on the 'I HATE PATS' bandwaggon because they see people who've been here for years dong it. They think they have the right to step in and shit all over him when they don't know the first thing about him or the situation. It's annoying as hell.

I don't think anyone jumps on that "badnwaggon" for sake of it, These people will no doubt have or had interaction with Pats to feel that way.

Plus, pretty much everything David said. Like after the whole IC title thing, me and Bang both actually offered advice about it to him, told him how he needs to change the way he acts, just for him to say "Gaz and Bang are dicks" to David.

It's stuff like that, the way he acts in general why he gets the hate he gets. Especially with his attitude, that he and others claim "is a joke" when he becomes incredibly cocky, which clearly isn't a joke.
I've spoken to people who have admitted to me that they join in solely because other people are doing it.

I'm not saying you should instantly stop your dislike of him, I know you guys have reasons for why you dislike him, but there are a lot of people who pick on everything he does just for the sake of being a dick. There's more than a few people who Pats has had hardly any interaction with, yet they still pick at him. There's absolutely no reason for that in my mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:48 pm

Dash wrote:

I've spoken to people who have admitted to me that they join in solely because other people are doing it.


Well then those people have issues, and nothing they say should even be taken with a grain of salt.
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PostSubject: Re: Switch (omg!)   Switch (omg!) Icon_minitimeWed Jul 30, 2014 1:57 pm

I'm just saying that if Pats hates on random people for no reason (which I don't agree with) then you hate on Pats even while he's not doing anything wrong... then aren't you just as bad.

Simply, if you all stopped poking at Pats when he's not doing anything and he stopped being annoying when no one else is doing anything, then there'd be no issue.

In just my small time here I've already seen him do annoying things so I agree that he isn't perfect, but just because he's made mistakes isn't any reason to hate on him in a thread where he switched his superstar. Especially guys like Zack who also appear to be picked at sometimes shouldn't be saying anything to Pats because he should know what it's like from the other end.

You all should just chill out.
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Danny Boy wrote:
I'm just saying that if Pats hates on random people for no reason (which I don't agree with) then you hate on Pats even while he's not doing anything wrong... then aren't you just as bad.

Simply, if you all stopped poking at Pats when he's not doing anything and he stopped being annoying when no one else is doing anything, then there'd be no issue.

In just my small time here I've already seen him do annoying things so I agree that he isn't perfect, but just because he's made mistakes isn't any reason to hate on him in a thread where he switched his superstar. Especially guys like Zack who also appear to be picked at sometimes shouldn't be saying anything to Pats because he should know what it's like from the other end.

You all should just chill out.

The thing is, Pats needs to mature. It's as simple as that. Sure, I wasn't the best around when I first came here, in fact I'll admit I was a horse's ass most the time, but now three or four years later, I've matured enough to admit my own mistakes, and that's what Pats has yet to ever do.
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