XWL Survey October 2013

First topic message reminder :

It's that time again.  We've decided to post the surveys more frequently, maybe every 3 months or so instead of yearly so we can keep up to date with people's opinions of XWL.  We know sometimes people might not want to state their feelings for whatever reason, but now you have a chance to let us know what you think.  Let us know what we can improve on to help you enjoy XWL more.  Just fill out the survey below with your thoughts and opinions and everything you post will be taken on board and under consideration.  Don't be afraid or worried about posting a negative opinion if you have one, this survey is for both positive and negative feedback so we can look to improve XWL.  Think of the survey as a review of the situation or as some kind of a temperature check with the goal being to make XWL a better place.  Feedback can only be a good thing going forward.  The more people that can fill this out, the better we can evaluate the league as a whole.

Shuggz wrote:

Also, instead of having guys like Red, Gaz, David or even myself floating around the main event put some of them in the midcard. Gives the titles a bit more credibility and gives Stay bit more of a challenge when defending his title.

Well here's a little fun role reversal to something that apparently happens...when I'm always open to discuss things...admins say they don't say anything to avoid an "argument" well just a few months ago I wanted to go in the I.C scene as Ted as opposed to the world. But Bang felt that Ted was "above" it, which is backwards thinking obviously but to avoid an argument I just let it be and stayed in the world.

Oh almost forgot to say in that post that yes you guys should make the chat active because new guys especially might not want to get skype. Just get an XAT it would make chat activity go up. XAT > Shoutbox

RCP wrote:

Oh almost forgot to say in that post that yes you guys should make the chat active because new guys especially might not want to get skype. Just get an XAT it would make chat activity go up. XAT > Shoutbox

RCP it's not 2011 you're drunk go home

Jonguin wrote:

RCP wrote:

Oh almost forgot to say in that post that yes you guys should make the chat active because new guys especially might not want to get skype. Just get an XAT it would make chat activity go up. XAT > Shoutbox

RCP it's not 2011 you're drunk go home

I i'm home that's where my computer is. Nice try Penguin.

Just figured I'd give a little bit of insight on some things that have been mentioned from my point of view so they don't go ignored. Like I said, this is just my opinion/thoughts on thing and in no way are they official except for the first one, I can confirm that it will most likely be official.

Contenders Matches, as mentioned by multiple people: We will be doing them, they are in popular demand so it seems and after Monster Bash, we will have some contenders match. Only way we won't have them is if Morrison and Shelley both lost and wanted rematches. I only say them two because Divas Championship has a contenders match at the event and it is kinda unknown with what would be down if I ended up defending my World Championship against Seme. You can still state your opinion on them because we are open to seeing your opinions, but it is confirmed that we will have a contenders match if possible.

Superstar of the Day; as mentioned by DieCobros: I really like this idea, but in my opinion, I can kinda see it as a calling for some argument or complaining to happen. Because if we took the approach where we would give it to who deserves it, it would also be held by members like David, Gregg, etc. Who do a lot every week as people like Chris Jericho and Ted DiBiase and people may complain that it is the same people every week. Or if we went with a more conventional route where we gave it so someone more so out of the blue, people may complain how is it fair that "____" got it when "____" did much more and better quality stuff this week. If a fair way of deciding it was thought up, I'd be open to discuss it but as of right now, I'm not sure how it to truly feel about it

Rankings; as mentioned by multiple people: Just like the Superstar of the Day, I like this but we'd actually have to have someone who would stay on the job because it has been done in XWL before, it just keeps getting stopped for reasons such as school, don't feel like doing it, etc. Plus, it would have to be formatted in the way so that the rankings are fair and non bias. The way Krzy did them was great and nobody really ever complained about how they were ranked and all, but he stopped doing them. If anyone would want to do them, then I'm sure you could, but it would be nice if you chose to do them then you'd know you will stick to it and not just do it for say... Three or so weeks and then stop doing them.

X-Treme Championship; as mentioned by probably Jerry: I'm against it because the way people are talking about it, and with the last moments of its run, it is just a way to reward people who do nothing. Take for example Chris Savior, he did nothing in terms of promos or anything in general really and he got rewarded the championship for it. If it was going to be here, I think it would have to be an actual championship and not just a "For Fun" Championship and even if it was an actual championship, I think having the three titles that we do have is good enough at the moment. If you want to go and play X-Treme Rules matches each week, then just play them for fun. So yeah, I'm against it being brought back. No reason for it to be here, doesn't serve really any purpose anymore unless people actually wanted it to server a purpose which we saw how that happened the last time it was tried to be given a purpose.

Admin Agreeing With David Or Whatever; because David wanted me to mention this randomly: Honestly, admins do discuss a lot of things and we all usually come to an agreement, most of the time it is like that... But I'll be honest here and there have been few times when admins have just said yeah to David because the conversation has become fucking annoying with someone constantly bitching to get their way. Take for example the whole "Alicia Fox in Chamber" incident where David wanted her in yet no other admin wanted her in the match, no offense to David what so ever, but that was just bullshit the entire thing. So I'm being honest, there have been times where we have just "agreed" to get the discussion over with but most of the things, at least 98% of them we do discuss and we come to an agreement on them. Like giving Oreo as Reigns the championship match, we all talked about who we thought should be the contender and then we mutually agreed that it should be him getting the shot rather then other people who were mentioned. I don't get why people think David has his "Yes Men" or anything, because a lot of the things that need to be discussed are discussed. Contenders, things like the Superstars Chamber at EFAE, the recent gimmick shows and what matches would take place, we discuss them and we come to an agreement on them. We aren't his little puppets on strings, I'm sure we wouldn't want to be admins if that was the case, well I know I wouldn't.

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Edit:

XAT Chat; as mentioned by RCP: Give up already

I'll retire the US Title if it means the Xtreme Title can come back.

TheKrzyOne wrote:

I'll retire the US Title if it means the Xtreme Title can come back.

I think it's best to leave it alone </3

I'll be responding with my answers soon-ish. Got a bit I'm doing atm.

Austin wrote:

Contenders Matches, as mentioned by multiple people: We will be doing them, they are in popular demand so it seems and after Monster Bash, we will have some contenders match. Only way we won't have them is if Morrison and Shelley both lost and wanted rematches.

I think automatic rematches will need to be discussed because a lot of people have never had one and this could be seen as unfair. It'll also keep the title scenes fresh if automatic rematches weren't standard anymore, and a lot of people seem to want different people getting opportunities.

SinAndBonez wrote:

Austin wrote:

Contenders Matches, as mentioned by multiple people: We will be doing them, they are in popular demand so it seems and after Monster Bash, we will have some contenders match. Only way we won't have them is if Morrison and Shelley both lost and wanted rematches.

I think automatic rematches will need to be discussed because a lot of people have never had one and this could be seen as unfair.  It'll also keep the title scenes fresh if automatic rematches weren't standard anymore, and a lot of people seem to want different people getting opportunities.

Yeah, I can see where you are coming from. I know someone people have chosen not to want a rematch (examples being me when I lost the Divas Champion, David when he lost WHC a while back, Adam when he lost WHC a second time) when they lost the championship where as others have wanted a rematch so it is kinda a split decision sometimes. I'm fine with either really, but I don't think we should completely throw automatic rematches out of the book, but I'd be fine with kinda slacking them down some to bring in newer faces to a title scene if that is what it takes.

I think we should have automatic rematches only if the person who lost their title wants it. Maybe it doesn't have to be on pay-per-view, it could just be on the next Breakdown or something. We need more title matches on Breakdown in all honesty.

Ash wrote:

It's not like we can add 'World Heavyweight Champion' in our CV when applying for a job.

That might explain why I was having so much trouble finding a job.

SinAndBonez wrote:

Austin wrote:

Contenders Matches, as mentioned by multiple people: We will be doing them, they are in popular demand so it seems and after Monster Bash, we will have some contenders match. Only way we won't have them is if Morrison and Shelley both lost and wanted rematches.

I think automatic rematches will need to be discussed because a lot of people have never had one and this could be seen as unfair.  It'll also keep the title scenes fresh if automatic rematches weren't standard anymore, and a lot of people seem to want different people getting opportunities.

Agreed, they should either be a thing or not. It shouldn't be differnt everytime, either one way or the other since some people never grt their rematches when others do, it's not a fair way to work it.

#HEEL wrote:

SinAndBonez wrote:

Austin wrote:

Contenders Matches, as mentioned by multiple people: We will be doing them, they are in popular demand so it seems and after Monster Bash, we will have some contenders match. Only way we won't have them is if Morrison and Shelley both lost and wanted rematches.

I think automatic rematches will need to be discussed because a lot of people have never had one and this could be seen as unfair.  It'll also keep the title scenes fresh if automatic rematches weren't standard anymore, and a lot of people seem to want different people getting opportunities.

Agreed, they should either be a thing or not. It shouldn't be differnt everytime, either one way or the other since some people never grt their rematches when others do, it's not a fair way to work it.

Yeah to me I've also been fine with automatic rematches, it's just some have been special cases like, me, some not wanting them, or some not being able to have them at pay-per-views because of things like the E.C/KOTR etc. Really I can't think of a time where we haven't allowed a rematch, to me I feel like it should happen, Gregg was going to get his but had to go on break unexpectedly so when he came back he was thrown in KOTR. But yeah I'm all for rematches.

Something else I've thought about and want to bring up is matches. They pretty much mean nothing until it's a PPV match, like who's doing well etc is based on promos alone it seems sometimes, matches should be a big part too, like if people aren't doing matches then they shouldn't be given title shots, main events etc.

I know some people (I'm one of them recently) don't do them because of the glitches/kickouts, so hopefully that changes for 2k14. But there's also people who haven't done a decent matches all year and beyond.

I've felt less inclined to do matches recently not just because of '13 but because of how they pretty much mean nothing, like if someone wins it doesn't really work in their favour, when it should.

#HEEL wrote:

Something else I've thought about and want to bring up is matches. They pretty much mean nothing until it's a PPV match, like who's doing well etc is based on promos alone it seems sometimes, matches should be a big part too, like if people aren't doing matches then they shouldn't be given title shots, main events etc.

I completely agree with this. I know I shouldn't say much after my World Title reign, but in all fairness it was a last minute replacement after Red had to go on break and I originally thought it was just going to be a good defense for Dolph. (Cactus should have gotten his match ) Back to the main point, it seems like matches don't mean half of what they use to. Maybe it's because there's no more rankings, maybe it's because the admins have put all the emphasis on promos recently. I think it's important to pick number one contender based on promo activity and how well they do in matches. Now, I don't mean who's been winning the most matches (that should still be a factor) but rather if they've been playing fair and putting on fun matches.

To be fair, matches do play a part in deciding somewhat. If you don't do them, like examples...Ryback and CM Punk, you won't get a shot because we need champions/contenders that do promos and matches. Even when you were there Jon, you still made an effort and did some matches.

Just throwing it out that I think we should be allowed to be 3 superstars instead of 2 and a diva. The divas aren't for everyone really and I feel like some people would benefit more by being 3 superstars so they can contribute more. In my case I love being Maddox and I love being Daniel Bryan, but with Maddox I can't do matches for a good while due to the promo plans I have as him. So being Maddox as a promo guy for now along with having Daniel and then someone else to be more active and do matches with would be better for me instead of phoning it in as a diva every couple of weeks. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way but it's just a thought.

Adam 3:16 wrote:

Just throwing it out that I think we should be allowed to be 3 superstars instead of 2 and a diva. The divas aren't for everyone really and I feel like some people would benefit more by being 3 superstars so they can contribute more. In my case I love being Maddox and I love being Daniel Bryan, but with Maddox I can't do matches for a good while due to the promo plans I have as him. So being Maddox as a promo guy for now along with having Daniel and then someone else to be more active and do matches with would be better for me instead of phoning it in as a diva every couple of weeks. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way but it's just a thought.

Yes, this plz  

I do agree with Adam as far as past experience goes I would've liked a third guy.

I'm willing to discuss it, providing we have a cap somewhat....like, no more than two admin approved guys as your three. Because having three would be a bit excessive and take up someone that would be wanted otherwise most likely etc.

ThatGuy wrote:

I'm willing to discuss it, providing we have a cap somewhat....like, no more than two admin approved guys as your three. Because having three would be a bit excessive and take up someone that would be wanted otherwise most likely etc.

Oh definitely. I figure a third superstar would add the possibility for more feuds as well.

ThatGuy wrote:

I'm willing to discuss it, providing we have a cap somewhat....like, no more than two admin approved guys as your three. Because having three would be a bit excessive and take up someone that would be wanted otherwise most likely etc.

I'd say that's expected and reasonable, for reasons you said plus so then one person isn't taking 3 big names. Plus I think 3rd superstar for most people would be someone they've always thought would be fun but didnt want as one of their 2 superstars, so I think the idea would be awesome.